Uncrossed legs

Wonderfully written and insightful… I hate when people fight on the boards. I like what Azar posted, though:

A friend of mine’s favorite retort when someone is getting all morally superior about sexual things;

“What do you think about when you masturbate?”

I love you! Thank you for being the voice of reason.

That is about the most retarded thing I’ve EVER heard. Morals are defined as “relating to principles of right and wrong.” How is a woman revealing her body, wrong? Unless she feels demeaned, I don’t believe that exposing the inner most part of you is wrong. The “pink” is such a beautiful thing (as is the cock). I can’t understand why anyone would try to make it into something vile or wrong.

Contrary to popular belief, there’s a lot more money to be made (if you have talent) in NOT showing pink, in NOT showing penetration. (If you have any doubt, compare porn video budgets to all other film and video budgets.) As a consiquence, only the crazy and/or talentless work “pink”, and 99.99% of sexually explicit art is tasteless crap. The idea that showing everything is tasteless and crappy becomes a self-fufilling prophecy.

-T.C.

Dacia, darling! How ARE you, girl! I keep forgetting to re-subscrbe so I missed a few entries. SORRY!

Okay, down to biz’ness.

“Art isn’t art until someone buys it, puts it in a frame and hangs it on a wall.”

That was the standard for eons. Now, with everything being digital, there are many who would like to label their work as art, when in reality the more appropriate term would be “artistic.”

There’s a difference.

Taking pictures in an artistic style does not any more render the resulting work as art than does taking off one’s clothes mean one is a slut.

Andrew Blake is one of my favorite colleagues. His work is biting. It’s hard core. And when he puts down the damn video camera and shoots stills he creates amazing works of art (I’m still personally undecided about his videos). What makes his works art, though, has nothing to do with what is or is not shown; it is the passion, the visual striking of an emotional chord, the deepening of awareness that takes his work from being mere images into the realm of art.

To claim that what one does or does not show is more artistic than the other shows an ignorance for the art itself.

-G

It seems, in my general experience, that simply making a personal, “here’s where I’m going to stand” ethical decision seldom satisfies most people. Somehow it gets turned quietly and unobtrusively into a cosmological rule—by which I mean that violating the terms of their decision is treated as a violation of The Natural Order, and thus a violent alteration of the universe they live in.

Maybe this is an overstatement, but I don’t think it’s that far off.

An old joke, apropos of nothing:

A man meets a beautiful woman at a party. He asks her, ‘Would you have sex with me for one million dollars?’

Shocked for a moment, she considers and replies, ‘Yes, I suppose I would.’

The man says, ‘How about for ten bucks?’

Indignant, she says, ‘What kind of girl do you think I am? No way!’

The man says, ‘We’ve already established the type of gal you are. Now we are merely haggling on price.’

I think that is a problem with our society in general - people splitting off into camps is one thing, but setting themselves up against their sisters and brothers never sits comfortably with me. And life and identity is rarely black-and-white. There is a whole lot of gray in between. Good for you for speaking up and pointing out the blurriness of the boundaries that those models see. And I love the look of your new site, by the way.

“Kinky” is always defined as being one step beyond where you have actually been…

…the same can generally be said for “Perverted”… “Sick” and “Immoral”.

It is sad to think that so many sexual terms are so deeply bathed in the pejorative.

Dacia, this is the inevitable result of patriarchal whore/madonna sexuality constructs. As long as women face social sanction for expressing sexuality, one of the available coping mechanisms will be to draw a line, and declare everyone past it a sinner.

I’ve noticed the same thing often goes for femininity — female body builders and other women athletes with lots of muscl mass are often at pains to display some other, exaggerated female characteristic. I’m not just talking about breast implants. Even notice Gail Deevers’ nails? Or the overwhelming predomination of long, flowing hair on female bodybuilders?

Yep. When I first started dancing, girls who “showed pink” by bending over while nude were dirty whores. Then some clubs started having floorwork and lap dances, which were totally immoral and evil at the time. Then it was girls who straddled the customers who were bad, and then the ones who did it with grinding for a long time, and now it’s the girls who give blowjobs in VIP that are evil (which is another issue - if what your selling is illegal and not condoned by the establishment, you should sell it someplace else, but it has nothing to do with morality).

Speaking for myself, I don’t really grasp the objection to showing ‘pink.’ I’ve always had this problem with, for example, Suicide Girls. Women have pussies, what’s wrong with showing them? Never grasped it..

=darwin